| [SPOILER] Tasha Yar [message #93297] |
Do, 28 Juli 2005 18:57 |
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Hi,
I searched everwhere and it seems I didn't found the answer. Why Tasha
Yar quit ST TNG after season 1. I know she was killed by a strange
character. But in reality : Denise Crosby chose to quit ? she was fired
? why ?
And in the same way, why did Beverly Crusher qui for 1 season ?
Thank you for your answer.
Tom
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| Re: Tasha Yar [message #93299 ] |
Do, 28 Juli 2005 19:32 |
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My understanding is that Crosby quit because she felt her character was
being poorly developed and utilized. (The Tasha character had great
potential, but was kind of dippy in how she was used).
McFadden was asked to leave because the produces felt her character was
unpopular and was being poorly developed and utilized. (An early
example of the producers being out of touch with the fan base --
although I think Dr. Pulaski had an interesting potential too.
Certainly she was more of a spiritual successor to Dr. McCoy)
In both cases the actors came back for better developed and utilized
characters.
Tom wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I searched everwhere and it seems I didn't found the answer. Why Tasha
> Yar quit ST TNG after season 1. I know she was killed by a strange
> character. But in reality : Denise Crosby chose to quit ? she was fired
> ? why ?
>
> And in the same way, why did Beverly Crusher qui for 1 season ?
>
> Thank you for your answer.
>
> Tom
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| Re: Tasha Yar [message #93303 ] |
Do, 28 Juli 2005 20:07 |
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"Bones" <mahop1 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1122571953.443654.247110 [at] o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> My understanding is that Crosby quit because she felt her character was
> being poorly developed and utilized. (The Tasha character had great
> potential, but was kind of dippy in how she was used).
>
> McFadden was asked to leave because the produces felt her character was
> unpopular and was being poorly developed and utilized. (An early
> example of the producers being out of touch with the fan base --
> although I think Dr. Pulaski had an interesting potential too.
> Certainly she was more of a spiritual successor to Dr. McCoy)
>
> In both cases the actors came back for better developed and utilized
> characters.
>
> Tom wrote:
I was under the impression it was because she did some nude poses for a
magazine which they didn't feel was a appropriate?
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| Re: Tasha Yar [message #93306 ] |
Do, 28 Juli 2005 21:39 |
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The nude poses by Crosby were in Playboy and were published almost 10
years before TNG started. By that time it was old news. Similarly, no
one cared (from a producers perspective) about the nude scenes Marina
Sirtis did in the Wicked Lady -- again pre-Star Trek.
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| Re: Tasha Yar [message #93310 ] |
Fr, 29 Juli 2005 02:11 |
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"kathryn" <nospam [at] here.com> wrote in message
news:dcb6sk$lic$1 [at] nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>
> "Bones" <mahop1 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1122571953.443654.247110 [at] o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>> My understanding is that Crosby quit because she felt her character was
>> being poorly developed and utilized. (The Tasha character had great
>> potential, but was kind of dippy in how she was used).
>>
>> McFadden was asked to leave because the produces felt her character was
>> unpopular and was being poorly developed and utilized. (An early
>> example of the producers being out of touch with the fan base --
>> although I think Dr. Pulaski had an interesting potential too.
>> Certainly she was more of a spiritual successor to Dr. McCoy)
>>
>> In both cases the actors came back for better developed and utilized
>> characters.
>
> I was under the impression it was because she did some nude poses for a
> magazine which they didn't feel was a appropriate?
According to the reference books I have, they claim it was due to lack of
character development.
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| Re: Tasha Yar [message #93314 ] |
Fr, 29 Juli 2005 04:22 |
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"Bones" <mahop1 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1122579551.476554.29350 [at] g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> The nude poses by Crosby were in Playboy and were published almost 10
> years before TNG started. By that time it was old news. Similarly, no
> one cared (from a producers perspective) about the nude scenes Marina
> Sirtis did in the Wicked Lady -- again pre-Star Trek.
>
Neither should they care. Why on earth are people so terrified of the human
body? I'm reminded of the mighty argument that broke out on the nitpickers'
website over that tame bath scene in Insurrection. I find it odd that there
are so many prudes among the fanbase of a show that was (for the 1960s) so
libidinous. Talking of which, I wonder if Deela got pregnant? :)
Ian
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| Re: Tasha Yar [message #93315 ] |
Fr, 29 Juli 2005 04:25 |
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"Bones" <mahop1 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1122571953.443654.247110 [at] o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> My understanding is that Crosby quit because she felt her character was
> being poorly developed and utilized. (The Tasha character had great
> potential, but was kind of dippy in how she was used).
>
> McFadden was asked to leave because the produces felt her character was
> unpopular and was being poorly developed and utilized. (An early
> example of the producers being out of touch with the fan base --
> although I think Dr. Pulaski had an interesting potential too.
> Certainly she was more of a spiritual successor to Dr. McCoy)
>
> In both cases the actors came back for better developed and utilized
> characters.
>
....until the movies became the Picard and That Sodding Android Show. How
many lines did Crusher have in Nemesis? About eight was it? I daresay there
was no space for her character, what with the importance of including
Spiner's tiresome Forrest Gumpdroid and all.
~sigh~
Ian
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| Re: Tasha Yar [message #93329 ] |
Fr, 29 Juli 2005 09:29 |
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"Snake" <fluidstates_NO+SPAM [at] REMOVE-ME.verizon.IHATESPAM.SPAM_VAC.com> wrote
in message news:_ueGe.2851$1E.62 [at] trndny04...
> "kathryn" <nospam [at] here.com> wrote in message
> news:dcb6sk$lic$1 [at] nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
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> > "Bones" <mahop1 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1122571953.443654.247110 [at] o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> >> My understanding is that Crosby quit because she felt her character was
> >> being poorly developed and utilized. (The Tasha character had great
> >> potential, but was kind of dippy in how she was used).
> >>
> >> McFadden was asked to leave because the produces felt her character was
> >> unpopular and was being poorly developed and utilized. (An early
> >> example of the producers being out of touch with the fan base --
> >> although I think Dr. Pulaski had an interesting potential too.
> >> Certainly she was more of a spiritual successor to Dr. McCoy)
> >>
> >> In both cases the actors came back for better developed and utilized
> >> characters.
> >
> > I was under the impression it was because she did some nude poses for a
> > magazine which they didn't feel was a appropriate?
>
> According to the reference books I have, they claim it was due to lack of
> character development.
>
Character development my ass. She thought she had a future in movies, and
that her great talent was being wasted on mere television.
She made Pet Sematary, and then it was pretty much phffffffft. Turned out
she wasn't all that great a talent, isn't a particularly beautiful woman (at
least not by Hollywood standards), and gave up the steadiest paycheck she
was ever going to see.
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| Re: Tasha Yar [message #93330 ] |
Fr, 29 Juli 2005 10:15 |
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Bones a écrit :
> My understanding is that Crosby quit because she felt her character was
> being poorly developed and utilized. (The Tasha character had great
> potential, but was kind of dippy in how she was used).
>
> McFadden was asked to leave because the produces felt her character was
> unpopular and was being poorly developed and utilized. (An early
> example of the producers being out of touch with the fan base --
> although I think Dr. Pulaski had an interesting potential too.
> Certainly she was more of a spiritual successor to Dr. McCoy)
>
> In both cases the actors came back for better developed and utilized
> characters.
OK, thank you for your answer :-)
NB : I hate Pulaski :-)
Tom
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| Re: Tasha Yar [message #95645 ] |
Fr, 29 Juli 2005 15:41 |
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Jaxtraw wrote:
> "Bones" <mahop1 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1122579551.476554.29350 [at] g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> The nude poses by Crosby were in Playboy and were published almost 10
>> years before TNG started. By that time it was old news. Similarly, no
>> one cared (from a producers perspective) about the nude scenes Marina
>> Sirtis did in the Wicked Lady -- again pre-Star Trek.
>>
>
> Neither should they care. Why on earth are people so terrified of the
> human body? I'm reminded of the mighty argument that broke out on the
> nitpickers' website over that tame bath scene in Insurrection. I find
> it odd that there are so many prudes among the fanbase of a show that
> was (for the 1960s) so libidinous. Talking of which, I wonder if
> Deela got pregnant? :)
Well, that was the intention. It was even necessary. The reason why they
captured the Enterprise was procreation.
I assume they didn't use birth control and that she was ready for a child.
Plus I like the idea of a little Kirk moving really fast. ;-)
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| Re: Tasha Yar [message #95658 ] |
Fr, 29 Juli 2005 23:29 |
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"Bones" <mahop1 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1122579551.476554.29350 [at] g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> The nude poses by Crosby were in Playboy and were published almost 10
> years before TNG started. By that time it was old news. Similarly, no
> one cared (from a producers perspective) about the nude scenes Marina
> Sirtis did in the Wicked Lady -- again pre-Star Trek.
>
Ahhh :)
the rumour grapevine fails again ;)
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| Re: Tasha Yar [message #100672 ] |
Do, 04 August 2005 07:06 |
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"Bones" <mahop1 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1122579551.476554.29350 [at] g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> The nude poses by Crosby were in Playboy and were published almost 10
> years before TNG started. By that time it was old news. Similarly, no
> one cared (from a producers perspective) about the nude scenes Marina
> Sirtis did in the Wicked Lady -- again pre-Star Trek.
>
Or of the nudes that Terry Farrell posed for before being cast as Jadzia
Dax.
Cody k
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| Re: Tasha Yar [message #100676 ] |
Do, 04 August 2005 14:33 |
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"Bones" <mahop1 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1122579551.476554.29350 [at] g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> The nude poses by Crosby were in Playboy and were published almost 10
> years before TNG started. By that time it was old news. Similarly, no
> one cared (from a producers perspective) about the nude scenes Marina
> Sirtis did in the Wicked Lady -- again pre-Star Trek.
>
>
It seems to me that she appeared in the May, 1988 issue of Playboy. This
would mean that the shots were published 1 year after TNG started, not 10
years before.
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Denise-Crosby
http://www.classictvhits.com/cast.php?id=2883
Dan
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| Re: Tasha Yar [message #100681 ] |
Fr, 05 August 2005 07:27 |
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On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 05:06:35 GMT, "Cody k"
<codykg [at] earth.not.mars.link.net> wrote:
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>"Bones" <mahop1 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1122579551.476554.29350 [at] g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> The nude poses by Crosby were in Playboy and were published almost 10
>> years before TNG started. By that time it was old news. Similarly, no
>> one cared (from a producers perspective) about the nude scenes Marina
>> Sirtis did in the Wicked Lady -- again pre-Star Trek.
>>
>
>Or of the nudes that Terry Farrell posed for before being cast as Jadzia
>Dax.
>
>Cody k
>
The difference between a whore and an actress is a camera.
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| Re: Tasha Yar [message #102781 ] |
Sa, 06 August 2005 01:53 |
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I heard that gates left because someone was trying the casting couch
routine.. Roddenberry found out halfway through filming S2 and fired the
person, inviting gates back with a substantial raise
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| Re: Tasha Yar [message #102782 ] |
Sa, 06 August 2005 01:53 |
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"Cody k" <codykg [at] earth.not.mars.link.net> wrote in message
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> Or of the nudes that Terry Farrell posed for before being cast as Jadzia
> Dax.
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> Cody k
>now THOSE i'd like to see :-D
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| Re: Tasha Yar [message #106794 ] |
Fr, 12 August 2005 08:27 |
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